Although Michio Kaku has starred on Joe Rogan’s podcast before, he certainly always comes with a spice of authentic storytelling.

This discussion takes you on a remarkable journey in which they explore a plethora of topics all related to the endless pursuit of productivity.

Humanity is just continuously evolving and they discuss at length all the interrelated aspects involved in this process.

As with all of JRE’s episodes, this is a long form conversation worth every second.